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allan
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Posted - 12/23/2012 :  09:22:07  Show Profile  Visit allan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Any explanation why for almost 3 days we've been unable to access our forum?

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Posted - 12/24/2012 :  06:59:17  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message Send Admin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can access it fine and I'm halfway around the world. What problem are you having?

Do you know how to post a traceroute?

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RUlmer
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Posted - 12/24/2012 :  10:11:31  Show Profile Send RUlmer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
P.S.
(This may be a double post, because I posted it once, and even though the page said it was posted the reply did not appear on the list. ????)

He (Allan) was not alone with the problem. I likewise could not access this support forum, nor could I load my own forum. This went on from the morning of the 21st till the evening of the 23rd. I tried to contact Admin, but was unable to login to send a message.
A few times, by waiting longer than 60 seconds the support forum would load, but I was unable to return to the logged in side of the program (the page just set there trying to navigate back to the forum's main page).

Something makes me suspect the problem was related to the sever in Tampa, Florida, but I don't know for sure that is where the problem related from.
Note:
another ForumCo forum that I'm a member of (SCHH Computer Club) did work these last few days, but somewhat slow. However, back when the storm "Sandy" was going on, and there was a cyber attack on Tampa's sever (from China) going on, that other forum (SCHH) was able to work then as well, even when I couldn't access my own forum or ForumCo's Support Forum at that time either.

I post this to let you know that the problem was wider spread than just what Allan experienced and posted about.

The previous similar incident I mentioned was back on Oct. 30, and posted about on Nov. 1. As with this last incident, some ForumCo forums in the Midwest of the U.S. were only partly working, but others not at all. This latest outage was very similar to that one back on Oct. 30.
See this topic for info about that incident;
You must be logged in to see this link.

I'm not sure how to "run a traceroute", or I'd do so for you; please advise

Edited by - RUlmer on 12/24/2012 12:45:52
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RUlmer
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Posted - 12/24/2012 :  10:25:46  Show Profile Send RUlmer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I now know how to run a traceroute, but because I'm not having the problem with the outage now, I don't know that I'll be able to see what happened back before at the time I couldn't access the forum(s)?

Next time it happens, I'll do a traceroute for you.
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allan
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Posted - 12/24/2012 :  18:58:03  Show Profile  Visit allan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes I do know how to run a traceroute but I don't think it was a routing problem. Members in the UK, Denmark, Greece, France Australia and the USA couldn't access the forum.

The server on this and at least two other forums was taking between 60 and 120 seconds to generate pages. This was fairly typical:



As RUlmer pointed out, it's happened before.

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Posted - 12/25/2012 :  08:08:47  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message Send Admin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would appreciate a traceroute if you can manage it. I've restarted the servers and will keep monitoring to see if I can pinpoint the problem.

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allan
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Posted - 12/28/2012 :  07:24:59  Show Profile  Visit allan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Err OK. I'm still puzzled about why routing problems should affect the time taken to generate pages.

If it helps, page generation times varied between 60 and 120 seconds but the vast majority of the time it was either very close to 60 seconds or very close to 90 seconds as in the example I posted.

Also, there were Internal Server Error 500 messages at times and any attempt to post or send a PM timed out.


Traceroute:
quote:
Tracing route to forumco.com [68.233.244.203]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 11 ms 8 ms 18 ms cpc1-hali5-2-0-gw.barn.cable.virginmedia.com [94.171.164.1]

2 10 ms 13 ms 8 ms brad-core-2a-xe-021-605.network.virginmedia.net [81.97.81.49]

3 10 ms 14 ms 7 ms manc-bb-1c-ae7-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.97.80.117]

4 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms manc-bb-1b-ae6-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.89]

5 13 ms 19 ms 27 ms popl-bb-1a-as4-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.162.85]

6 25 ms 24 ms 15 ms popl-tmr-1-ae4-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.2]

7 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms amst-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.175.6]

8 27 ms 21 ms 27 ms te0-7-0-10.ccr21.ams04.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.15.5]

9 39 ms 32 ms 37 ms te0-0-0-7.ccr22.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.2.65]

10 28 ms 44 ms 27 ms te0-4-0-7.ccr22.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58.70]

11 95 ms 94 ms 92 ms te0-6-0-4.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.85.221]

12 105 ms 109 ms 105 ms te0-7-0-3.ccr22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.53]

13 103 ms 101 ms 124 ms te0-2-0-2.ccr22.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.26.169]

14 121 ms 121 ms 119 ms te0-0-0-3.ccr22.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.28.218]

15 234 ms 200 ms 204 ms te3-2.ccr01.jax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.26]

16 129 ms 200 ms 226 ms te4-2.ccr01.mco01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.29.218]

17 298 ms 203 ms 203 ms te4-3.ccr01.tpa01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.47.186]

18 129 ms 130 ms 127 ms 38.104.150.70

19 129 ms 130 ms 132 ms ve225.fesxv26.tpa.hivelocity.net [206.51.235.210]

20 * * * Request timed out.

21 * * * Request timed out.

22 * * * Request timed out.

23 * * * Request timed out.

24 * * * Request timed out.

25 * * * Request timed out.

26 * * * Request timed out.

27 * * * Request timed out.

28 * * * Request timed out.

29 * * * Request timed out.

30 * * * Request timed out.

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Admin
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Posted - 12/31/2012 :  11:18:09  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message Send Admin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks.

I have gone through the web server logs and identified some suspicious traffic from two isp's notorious for hosting spam bots. I have installed software designed to prevent them from taking up too much resources and also our ISP has installed a hardware solution to prevent denial of service traffic.

If you notice anything strange, as always post as much info as you can on these forums, or email it to me.

Padraic,

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Posted - 12/31/2012 :  13:45:17  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message Send Admin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just came across another problem in the logs that has been fixed. It should improve things even further.

Padraic,

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allan
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Posted - 01/01/2013 :  09:58:41  Show Profile  Visit allan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your efforts Padraic.

The forums were unusable again today, this time just for a couple of hours around 12.00UTC.

Traceroutes were similar whether the site is working or not:


Working:
Tracing route to mail.forumco.com [68.233.244.203]
over a maximum of 20 hops:

  1     9 ms    16 ms     9 ms  cpc1-hali5-2-0-gw.barn.cable.virginmedia.com [94.171.164.1] 
  2     8 ms    10 ms    10 ms  brad-core-2a-xe-021-605.network.virginmedia.net [81.97.81.49] 
  3    20 ms    11 ms     8 ms  manc-bb-1c-ae7-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.97.80.117] 
  4    11 ms     9 ms     8 ms  manc-bb-1b-ae6-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.89] 
  5    16 ms    14 ms    15 ms  popl-bb-1a-as4-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.162.85] 
  6    15 ms    15 ms    24 ms  popl-tmr-1-ae4-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.2] 
  7    22 ms    34 ms    21 ms  amst-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.175.6] 
  8    23 ms    23 ms    24 ms  te0-7-0-10.ccr21.ams04.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.15.5] 
  9    22 ms    24 ms    23 ms  te0-5-0-6.ccr22.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.73.193] 
 10    35 ms    36 ms    27 ms  te0-4-0-7.ccr22.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58.70] 
 11    96 ms    95 ms    95 ms  te0-6-0-4.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.85.221] 
 12   104 ms   104 ms   103 ms  te0-7-0-3.ccr22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.53] 
 13   107 ms   100 ms   111 ms  te0-4-0-2.ccr22.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.25] 
 14   130 ms   119 ms   120 ms  te0-0-0-3.ccr22.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.28.218] 
 15   127 ms   127 ms   120 ms  te3-2.ccr01.jax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.26] 
 16   130 ms   131 ms   132 ms  te4-2.ccr01.mco01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.29.218] 
 17   137 ms   123 ms   124 ms  te4-3.ccr01.tpa01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.47.186] 
 18   127 ms   154 ms   129 ms  38.104.150.70 
 19   130 ms   132 ms   148 ms  ve225.fesxv26.tpa.hivelocity.net [206.51.235.210] 
 20     *        *        *     Request timed out.


Site down:
Tracing route to mail.forumco.com [68.233.244.203]
over a maximum of 20 hops:

  1    11 ms    30 ms    15 ms  cpc1-hali5-2-0-gw.barn.cable.virginmedia.com [94.171.164.1] 
  2     9 ms     7 ms    20 ms  brad-core-2a-xe-021-605.network.virginmedia.net [81.97.81.49] 
  3     8 ms     7 ms     8 ms  manc-bb-1c-ae7-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.97.80.117] 
  4    15 ms     7 ms     7 ms  manc-bb-1b-ae6-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.89] 
  5   137 ms    61 ms    16 ms  popl-bb-1a-as4-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.162.85] 
  6    14 ms    15 ms    16 ms  popl-tmr-1-ae4-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.2] 
  7    23 ms    21 ms    41 ms  amst-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.175.6] 
  8    23 ms    23 ms    24 ms  te0-7-0-10.ccr21.ams04.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.15.5] 
  9    23 ms    31 ms    32 ms  te0-0-0-7.ccr22.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.2.65] 
 10    29 ms    28 ms    27 ms  te0-0-0-7.ccr22.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.37.106] 
 11   102 ms    94 ms    93 ms  te0-6-0-4.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.85.221] 
 12   114 ms   106 ms   101 ms  te0-7-0-3.ccr22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.53] 
 13   109 ms   116 ms   111 ms  te0-2-0-2.ccr22.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.26.169] 
 14   121 ms   128 ms   120 ms  te0-0-0-3.ccr22.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.28.218] 
 15   120 ms   120 ms   119 ms  te3-2.ccr01.jax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.26] 
 16   131 ms   131 ms   131 ms  te4-2.ccr01.mco01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.29.218] 
 17   124 ms   124 ms   123 ms  te4-3.ccr01.tpa01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.47.186] 
 18   129 ms   137 ms   143 ms  38.104.150.70 
 19   140 ms   134 ms   132 ms  ve225.fesxv26.tpa.hivelocity.net [206.51.235.210] 
 20     *        *        *     Request timed out.



One thing I did notice on this occasion was that for part of the time DNS lookups for forumco didn't work:

lookup failed 	68.233.244.203
  	Could not find a domain name corresponding to this IP address.

lookup failed 	forumco.com
  	Could not find an IP address for this domain name.


I don't know if that helps you diagnose the problem.

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Posted - 01/01/2013 :  13:34:27  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message Send Admin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's actually a great help. I have setup backup dns with another provider.

Thanks for the info, I'll keep monitoring it.

Padraic,

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Posted - 01/08/2013 :  04:23:45  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message Send Admin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Any issues over the last week?

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allan
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Posted - 01/10/2013 :  14:34:30  Show Profile  Visit allan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nothing I've noticed.

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allan
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Posted - 02/03/2013 :  09:49:14  Show Profile  Visit allan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
....and the problems are back. For a few hours on January 20th when the forumco domain was unreachable again and now the best part of two days when the forums were unusable with 90 second page loads:




The problem lasted from sometime overnight (UTC) 1st - 2nd February until around 14.30 UTC 3rd February.

For most of the time it was taking 90 seconds to load our forum and 60 seconds for this one. The timings were fairly consistent. Perhaps the difference is to do with the relative sizes of two databases? Maybe that's a clue to what's going on?

I hope you can find the cause this time, our users are getting restive.

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Posted - 03/09/2013 :  14:49:07  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message Send Admin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Made changes to the forums this morning to prevent the slowdowns. Let me know if you notice anything that isn't right.

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