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TimberJack
Starting Member
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 Posted - 08/19/2012 : 14:55:29
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Hi everyone,
I`ve been trying this option out so not to have long strings of text but i still i dont see any results when i do a test post?
I can still post long string wich are awfull because the need to scroll horizontal.
Is there something i`m not seeing here or better yet, what to adjust so the system automaticly keep all post within a specific width?
Thanks for the help on this.
TJ
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RUlmer
Moderator
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2012 : 17:56:28
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TimberJack;
I know an over-wide-image in the post will force the right (text) table area to widen out. But, then you'll have a scroll bar at the bottom; which I think is more of a hassle to slide the screen back left and right in order to read a sentence.
However, you might try messing with the settings under your Admin Options - Font/Table Color Code Configuration
What you want is at the lower area of that group of option's settings.
Which is what I'm thinking you have been trying. But, have you tried to go over 100 percent in the setting, for example 125 percent?
I'm not saying that anything I'm suggesting here will accomplish what you want, I'm just saying that would be where and what I'd try.
But, even if you do have the text box area wider, every time enough "reply" posting are made, you'll be back to having the up and down scroll bar on the right (in addition to having one at the bottom).
Maybe, I'm not fully understanding what it is your wanting to do?
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After I posted the above, I reread your post. I see it is the bottom bar you're trying to avoid. As I mentioned, an image too wide will cause the entire page to widen out; therefore causing the bar at the bottom.
I suppose your screen setting on your computer could also cause the need for the lower scroll bar as well. |
Edited by - RUlmer on 08/19/2012 18:05:00 |
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RUlmer
Moderator
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2012 : 18:12:31
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TimberJack
Starting Member
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Posted - 08/20/2012 : 13:50:17
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Hi RUlmer,
Thanks for your input on this.
About an extra large pic, yes i know that a large pice will have that effect.
But the problem is more with people writing long lines witout using the enter key after each line.
This will get you massive width in that particular post and you`ll have to scroll from left to right just to read the post.
Its impossible to ask everyone to write short lines and use the "enter" button after each line so not to get a widden window.
Thats why i`m asking if theres an option to make sure all post are automaticly kept within a certain width of the forum itself?
I`m gonna play abit with that 125% option and also with the pencil tool aswell and i`ll let you know how it went.
Btw, the option "Topic NOWRAP Left" and "Topic NOWRAP Right".
What is best here, both on or both off and will this help also? |
Edited by - TimberJack on 08/20/2012 13:54:29 |
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RUlmer
Moderator
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2012 : 15:15:21
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What setting do you have the "Nowrap" button set on? Is it on the "Yes" or "No" option?
People should not have to hit "enter" for the text to auto drop down to the next line when their sentence is a long one. By default the program should auto drop the text down instead of causing a scroll bar at the bottom of the page. |
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RUlmer
Moderator
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2012 : 15:57:21
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Put the "Nowrap" left on "On"
Put the "Nowrap" right on "Off"
Be sure to submit any change.
See if that takes care of your problem.
And make sure no member has posted an image of oversize width within the topic's string. Such an image will cause the entire page to show a scroll bar at the bottom. |
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TimberJack
Starting Member
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Posted - 08/21/2012 : 13:50:50
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Hi,
Things is that the auto drop doesnt work but thats maybe because of the wrong settings made in the Admin section.
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Originally posted by RUlmer
What setting do you have the "Nowrap" button set on? Is it on the "Yes" or "No" option?
People should not have to hit "enter" for the text to auto drop down to the next line when their sentence is a long one. By default the program should auto drop the text down instead of causing a scroll bar at the bottom of the page.
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TimberJack
Starting Member
9 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2012 : 13:54:28
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I`ve tried all about 125% and so on even try different sizes with the pencil tool but no results.
I`ll do what you wrote below here on the nowrap option and i do hope it solve this because that horizontal scrolling is no good.
I see to it that everyone post normal size pic`s to.
Heres a pic on the Nowrap options of how they are set now and submitted.
Thing is that they were like that before.
Thanks for your help on this, will let you know how is goes with thos nowarp options.
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Originally posted by RUlmer
Put the "Nowrap" left on "On"
Put the "Nowrap" right on "Off"
Be sure to submit any change.
See if that takes care of your problem.
And make sure no member has posted an image of oversize width within the topic's string. Such an image will cause the entire page to show a scroll bar at the bottom.
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Edited by - TimberJack on 08/21/2012 14:02:37 |
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RUlmer
Moderator
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2012 : 14:30:06
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Did you try (or check) your "Screensize" setting in your "Edit Forum's Properties" option.
My setting is on 800x600. I've never had a problem with a bottom scroll bar, except when a wide image caused it. I use a 22 inch flat screen monitor. The 800x600 setting works just fine. I would think all sub-forums should all be set the same?
Yes, the above "NOWRAP" settings you show above are what I believe to be correct and most likely the default setting. I've never changed that, and I've been using ForumCo Forums for years.
And, my settings on the width are simply both set on 100, not 125 percent.
Let me know how it goes with this problem, and if anything gets it fixed for you. |
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TimberJack
Starting Member
9 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2012 : 18:18:20
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Hi RUlmer,
Screen size is 800x600.
My monitor is a 17 inch at 1280x1024 but that should be more than enough.
The fonts size are now,
Default Font Size: (12 pt)
Header Font Size: (12 pt)
Footer Font Size: (12 pt)
But tis shouldnt matter either.
Still no "auto drop down" in the post made today and yesterday with no pics.
I`ve done plenty of test posting and i can write and write and make the horizontal scroll pretty big.
This forum is only like 3/4 of a year old.
Heres the forum link You must be logged in to see this link.
Thanks for the help, its much appriciated.
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Edited by - TimberJack on 08/22/2012 18:23:28 |
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RUlmer
Moderator
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2012 : 08:39:36
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Timberjack;
I looked at a little bit of your forum.
Two things (problem areas) stand out pertaining to what I looked at.
First, you are using an image for your Logo that is almost 7 inches wide. That along with the overlarge text forces the page wider than normal, creating a scrollbar at the bottom of all pages.
Second, you do have over-wide photos posted within some post. How many, I don't know. But in one forum you have an image posted that is 13.5 inches wide. That's way wider than one can post without the page needing a lower scroll bar.
My suggestion is that the things I mention above be addressed, and any other images within your forum also be checked for width. And if you are going to use such large text in the header area of your forum, do not use an image that wide for your Logo.
P.S.
Keep in mind that different styles (fonts) of text , even when not changing the font size, will appear larger, and require more space to display them. I believe the default (original setting) for that is 10pts, not 12pts.
But, your forum is doing as it should. The dropping down to the next line to continue to finish a long sentence is working correct. However, the changes you've made (stuff I spoke of above) have created a wider area for the text of long sentences to continue on the same line without dropping.
On the Header (Logo) area of the page, your image might work if your text wasn't quite so large in that area. That might be a simple way to make a needed change. The other way is to change the image, so as for it not to be so wide. |
Edited by - RUlmer on 08/23/2012 09:41:31 |
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TimberJack
Starting Member
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Posted - 08/23/2012 : 19:36:35
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quote:
Originally posted by RUlmer
Timberjack;
I looked at a little bit of your forum.
Two things (problem areas) stand out pertaining to what I looked at.
First, you are using an image for your Logo that is almost 7 inches wide. That along with the overlarge text forces the page wider than normal, creating a scrollbar at the bottom of all pages.
This Logo i can adjust...what the best image size for this?
I checked the Logo here and its 334x86 pixels, so its that the best or can i go abit larger?
Second, you do have over-wide photos posted within some post. How many, I don't know. But in one forum you have an image posted that is 13.5 inches wide. That's way wider than one can post without the page needing a lower scroll bar.
In some post there are some large pics but that shouldnt effect post that dont have that or does it?
My suggestion is that the things I mention above be addressed, and any other images within your forum also be checked for width. And if you are going to use such large text in the header area of your forum, do not use an image that wide for your Logo.
Since all pics are not posted directly on the forum itself its abit of a pain when someone post a pic and dont logon for some time.
Only thing left to do is delete it but thats not really a good move either.
Or i can delete it re-size it myself and upload it wich is a pain and would not be appriciated by everyone.
P.S.
Keep in mind that different styles (fonts) of text , even when not changing the font size, will appear larger, and require more space to display them. I believe the default (original setting) for that is 10pts, not 12pts.
This i`ll reset to 10Pts.
But, your forum is doing as it should. The dropping down to the next line to continue to finish a long sentence is working correct. However, the changes you've made (stuff I spoke of above) have created a wider area for the text of long sentences to continue on the same line without dropping.
On the Header (Logo) area of the page, your image might work if your text wasn't quite so large in that area. That might be a simple way to make a needed change. The other way is to change the image, so as for it not to be so wide.
Thanks for the help on this mate...^^ |
Edited by - TimberJack on 08/23/2012 19:39:11 |
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RUlmer
Moderator
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2012 : 12:05:20
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What size image for logo?;
Well, it can be a little wider than ForumCo's default logo. (386 pixels wide); but it can't, or should not be, so wide to force your forum's pages to create a scrollbar at the bottom. That image affects each and every page within your forum. It's on all pages.
The forum's frames, columns, and areas are all sections that will expand; should an Admin (or a member) place an image that is over-wide for what the area is sized at. But, doing so will cause a lower scrollbar to be needed to display the page.
Also the number of pixels, in the relationship to image's resolution, will cause different width requirements to display the image. In other words, an image with 300 pixels per-inch, will show larger (take more space on the page), than an image of 72 pixels per-inch.
You'll need to work on your logo image, trying to size it down to fit where it is used at. What size? I can't tell you what size works best for you. Experiment with a less wide image, and see if it takes care of your lower scrollbar problem.
TIP: You can find what size others are using by right-clicking their logos and reading the "Properties" of the image. |
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TimberJack
Starting Member
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Posted - 08/27/2012 : 07:00:52
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Hi RUlmer,
Thanks for all your answers and support.
I`m gonna keep it like it is now because some like the forum like it is now because its better reading on thier I-phone and stuff.
If i should encounter this situation in the near future again than i know what needs to be adjusted to avoid the horizontal scrolling as much as possible.
Thanks...^^ |
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RUlmer
Moderator
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 09:17:29
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It has not been a total waste in trying to help you remove the lower scrollbar, others may have the same problem and understand why they have one. And what works best for different situations doesn't always work best on other viewing systems. An Admin can not set their forums so as to accommodate all viewer's needs.
At least you understand that it isn't the forum doing something it shouldn't be.
If you need more help, we're here. |
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RUlmer
Moderator
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2012 : 11:38:37
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When a URL address is very long, and is typed or pasted into a post, after (when) the post is "Submitted" the page will have a lower scroll bar. The lower scroll bar causes the screen to have to be slid back and forth to read sentences. Not only on this post, but it affects all replies that follow up on the topic's page. However, it should not be affecting follow-up pages, if there are more pages that are created on the subject; like a page "2" being needed if there are many more replies to the subject.
Above is another reason I've found to be causing the lower scroll bar to be needed on some post. In the create widow the a long address does show part of the address to be dropped down to a second line area. But, when the post is submitted the address does not split, therefore causing a lower scroll bar to be needed, and therefore is created.
TimberJack, I don't think this is the problem with your forum's pages doing this; it's your image sizes (width) in your forum's case.
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Edited by - RUlmer on 09/01/2012 11:45:24 |
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