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Admin
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  22:27:45  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message Send Admin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No problem. Its great that you posted the headers, I usually don't get that kind of info.

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CRAFT-Guy
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37 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2011 :  02:27:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well the changes took a lot less than 24 hours to go into effect. And they seem to work for our Comcast and Cox email system users. A MOC member reported earlier tonight that their "Subscription" messages resumed once again. I did send test emails to the members at Comcast and Cox without getting an immediate rejection.

However, the changes did not correct the problem with AT&T (and its brethren - sbcglobal.net, bellsouth.net, swbell.net, and nvbell.net). Those systems continue to reject emails from the ForumCo SMTP server with the reason
"Failed Recipient: c214dick@att.net
Reason: Remote host said: 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse. See You must be logged in to see this link."

We really would like to have the "Abuse" blockage removed by those providers as we have a significant number of members who subscribe to their email offering. As it stands now, we can not communicate with them via email.

Here are the rejections messages from AT&T
============================================================


Could not deliver message to the following recipient(s):

Failed Recipient: c214dick@att.net
You must be logged in to see this link.

-- The header and top 20 lines of the message follows --

Received: from www (You must be logged in to see this link. [127.0.0.1]) by mail.forumco.com with SMTP;
Thu, 3 Nov 2011 01:59:08 -0400
thread-index: AcyZ7bNPBgigW6D/TamGdyG/sobqlQ==
Thread-Topic: Sent From Montana Owner's Club Discussion Forum by CRAFT-Guy
From: <MOCModerator@gmail.com>
To: <c214dick@att.net>
Subject: Sent From Montana Owner's Club Discussion Forum by CRAFT-Guy
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 01:59:08 -0400
Message-ID: <C22B9E0B133C4686A8B551A38C8931F8@forumco.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
Importance: normal
Priority: normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609
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Admin
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Posted - 11/03/2011 :  05:49:32  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message Send Admin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've submitted a request to AT&T to remove our ip from their block list since yesterday evening. It may not take effect until Friday.

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Admin
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Posted - 11/05/2011 :  08:49:36  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message Send Admin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Any update on the email issue to AT&T ?

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CRAFT-Guy
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37 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2011 :  14:18:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just tried sending email to all five AT&T flavored providers and they all rejected our emails as SPAM (just as before). Here is what I receive in the bounce-back message:

===================================================================

Could not deliver message to the following recipient(s):

Failed Recipient: c214dick@att.net
You must be logged in to see this link.

-- The header and top 20 lines of the message follows --

Received: from www (You must be logged in to see this link. [127.0.0.1]) by mail.forumco.com with SMTP;
Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:09:09 -0400
thread-index: Acyb5gOcUIwlXAcUQ325BSaI+bL85g==
Thread-Topic: Sent From Montana Owner's Club Discussion Forum by CRAFT-Guy
From: <MOCModerator@gmail.com>
To: <c214dick@att.net>
Subject: Sent From Montana Owner's Club Discussion Forum by CRAFT-Guy
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:09:09 -0400
Message-ID: <065CE7EA822742D0A1E8BF8022DCB912@forumco.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
Importance: normal
Priority: normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609

Hello c214dick

You received the following message from: CRAFT-Guy (MOCModerator@gmail.com)

At: You must be logged in to see this link.

This is a test email from the MOC to determine if
att.net
is still blocking our emails. Please reply if you receive this message.
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CRAFT-Guy
Starting Member



37 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2011 :  14:04:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It has been a week since the last posting. Email is still not working to AT&T. Is there any update on the progress to correct this problem?
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CRAFT-Guy
Starting Member



37 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2011 :  14:12:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yet another week has passed. Email to AT&T still doesn't work. Has there been any progress in resolving this problem? We would really appreciate a response.
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CRAFT-Guy
Starting Member



37 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2011 :  23:40:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And yet another week has passed without an update. Of course this problem has been around since last year so what is a week in the overall scheme of things? Never the less, an acknowledgment that some attempt to identify and/or resolve it would be greatly appreciated.
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Admin
ForumCo Administrator



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Posted - 12/01/2011 :  15:19:05  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message Send Admin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can you post details of the headers like you did the last time?


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CRAFT-Guy
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37 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2011 :  19:13:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Admin

Can you post details of the headers like you did the last time?


Sure enough! Here is the headers (and message) from one sent (and rejected) a few minutes ago.

============================================================

Could not deliver message to the following recipient(s):

Failed Recipient: c214dick@att.net
You must be logged in to see this link.


-- The header and top 20 lines of the message follows --

Received: from www (You must be logged in to see this link. [127.0.0.1]) by mail.forumco.com with SMTP;
Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:08:43 -0500
thread-index: AcyxT7fnL2gnDvcLSOmU/nxBjufI9g==
Thread-Topic: Sent From Montana Owner's Club Discussion Forum by CRAFT-Guy
From: <MOCModerator@gmail.com>
To: <c214dick@att.net>
Subject: Sent From Montana Owner's Club Discussion Forum by CRAFT-Guy
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:08:43 -0500
Message-ID: <F3F959C164B24BC183641003A0BDF95E@forumco.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
Importance: normal
Priority: normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609

Hello c214dick

You received the following message from: CRAFT-Guy (MOCModerator@gmail.com)

At: You must be logged in to see this link.

This is a test from the MOC email system to c214dick. Please reply if you receive it. Thanks!




Edited by - CRAFT-Guy on 12/02/2011 19:14:36
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Admin
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Posted - 12/07/2011 :  14:50:01  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message Send Admin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Made a change. Can you try it again?

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CRAFT-Guy
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37 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2011 :  01:37:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I sent an email from the MOC to the member who has been my test AT&T email case. Normally (when it is rejected) I receive a rejection email almost immediately. This time there was no rejection message.

I have asked the member to respond if they actually receive my email. I haven't heard from them but they may be away today or it was too late in their time zone. I will wait another 12 hours to see what develops. But the good news is the behavior has changed and may indicate it is working. We can only hope.
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CRAFT-Guy
Starting Member



37 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2011 :  20:52:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have not heard from my test case member. It has been 24 hours now and I even PM'd him but nothing. He must be out of touch email-wise.

But I did send a test email to my personal email account (Gmail based) which has been working. It has been several hours now and it still hasn't been delivered. I suspect the recent change has stopped the delivery of all email again.

Perhaps looking at the syslog of the SMTP Server may expose some interesting messages?

I will try some other members with various AT&T subsidiary accounts.
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CRAFT-Guy
Starting Member



37 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2011 :  23:41:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have confirmed that our test emails were not delivered to the AT&T servers. They are not being rejected as before, they just disappear into the ether. Additionally, email to ISPs that hadn't previously been a problem are not being delivered either.

In short

Email from the ForumCo SMTP Server is broken!
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Montana Owners Club
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USA
844 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2011 :  02:56:41  Show Profile  Visit Montana Owners Club's Homepage Send Montana Owners Club a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As CRAFT-Guy said our e-mail is completely dysfunctional. It is impacting our registrations and is also inhibiting our communication with some of our members, and members to members as well.




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